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Month: May 2013

The T110 120mm Heavy Tank Project

Today’s post is on the T110 120mm heavy tank project. While I cite numerous sources for this article I must point out that it is the work of author Hunnicutt which is the authoritative and most influential of all reference materials.

Initiated on December 3, 1954, the T110 120mm heavy tank project began (Estes). Prior work had begun on October 30 for cannons to be used in this project, the T204 and T179, 120mm cannons. On September 18, 1956 the project would be canceled in light of the success of the  T43 project which would lead to the M103 (Estes). The T110 began life as concept TS-31 and was given to Chrysler Corporation with their proposal being the 120mm gun tank T110 (Hunnicutt). There were multiple versions of the T110 that were proposed. The initial proposal was rejected as its dimensions would of prohibited the vehicles passage through the Berne International Tunnel, a requirement for the project (Hunnicutt). A further requirement was that the vehicle have a 50 ton weight limit (Hunnicutt). As design progressed the  T123E1 was selected as the cannon (Hunnicutt). All total there were five T110 designs (Hunnicutt). The names Chrysler and Detroit Arsenal should be considered interchangeable when reading on the development of this tank. To be clear the Detroit Arsenal, or Detroit Arsenal Tank Plant (DATP) was established by Chrysler but owned and by the United States government and alternately would be Army operated or contractor operated (“Detroit Arsenal Tank Plant”). Chrysler operated the facility during the development of the T110; having regained it from the Army in 1952 (“Detroit Arsenal Tank Plant”).

The five proposals:

  1. Proposal 1 – initially rejected as the cupola arrangement would have prohibited the vehicles passage through the Berne International Tunnel. Redesigned so that the cab width was reduced to 124″ and commander relocated to center rear; the nose shortened; and fuel removed from the front. AV-1790 engine selected; XTG-500 transmission; flat-track suspension (Hunnicutt).

  2. Proposal 2 – redesign of proposal 1 with transmission relocated to engine compartment; cupola removed; fuel moved to front with the driver to the left; AOI-1490 engine selected; XTG-500 transmission; traditional suspension (Hunnicutt).

    Proposal 2

    Proposal 2

  3. Proposal 3 – the main gun was placed in a rigid mount for this proposal. This proposal was fraught with problems with regards to power plant mounting; engine and transmission issues; grill area issues (Hunnicutt).

    Proposal 3

    Proposal 3

  4. Proposal 4 – this proposal placed an AOI-1490 engine and XTG-510 transmission in rear; rear deck infrared sheilding; rigid gun emplacement; both .50 and .30 caliber machine guns; a T53 OPTAR range finder; a T156 telescope as the main gun site and a M16A1 periscope as the secondary sitting mechanism. The commander was placed in the center towards the rear; the gunner on the left of the gun mount; and the driver at the right of the gun mount. This vehicle had a limited turret traverse (Hunntington).
  5. Proposal 5 – this design was for a vehicle with a turret capable of a full 360 degree traverse. This design many standard components including the same turret traverse ring as the M103 series. This design had a crew of four; with the gunner and the commander to the left of the main gun. This design had a power rammer for the main gun; a commander’s override system; a T53 OPTAR range finder. A full size mock up was made of this vehicle (Hunntington).

    Proposal 5

    Proposal 5

A document reflecting specifications for the T95, T96, and  T110:

Project T95 used the OPTAR range finder (“The Chieftain’s Hatch: Rangefinding.”); just as was called for in the fourth and fifth T110 designs. Utilizing pulse lights, the OPTAR range finder could determine the range by timing the reflection of light from the target; although it suffered from a scattering effect (Hunnicutt).

A T95 with an OPTAR rangefinder; as was intended for the fourth and fifth T110 designs.

A T95 with an OPTAR rangefinder; as was intended for the fourth and fifth T110 designs.

The video game World of Tanks represents three of the proposed T110 designs as vehicles in game; as the T110E3, the T110E4, and the T110E5, representing the third, fourth, and fifth proposals respectively.

Works Cited:

1. Estes, Kenneth W. M103 Heavy Tank 1950-74. Osprey Publishing Ltd., 2012. eBook.

2. Hunnicutt, R. P. Firepower: A History of the American Heavy Tank. Presidio, 86, 130, 172 – 176. Print.

3. “T110E3.” World of Tanks Wiki. Wargaming.net, 20 Mar 2013. Web. 24 May 2013. <http://wiki.worldoftanks.com/T110E3>.

4. “T110E4.” World of Tanks Wiki. Wargaming.net, 18 April 2013. Web. 24 May 2013. <http://wiki.worldoftanks.com/T110E4>.

5. “T110E5.” World of Tanks Wiki. Wargaming.net, 10 May 2013. Web. 24 May 2013. <http://wiki.worldoftanks.com/T110E5>.

6. “The Chieftain’s Hatch: Rangefinding.” World of Tanks. Wargaming.net. Web. 25 May 2013. <http://worldoftanks.com/news/2351-chieftains-hatch-ragefinding/>.

7. United States. HEADQUARTERS DEPARTMENT OF THE ARMY. DIRECT SUPPORT, GENERAL SUPPORT, AND DEPOT MAINTENANCE REPAIR PARTS AND SPECIAL TOOLS LIST TELESCOPE M97 (1240-360-1593), M97G (1240-732-1470) AND M97H (1240-732-1469). Washington DC: , 1970. Print.

8. “Detroit Arsenal Tank Plant.” Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia. Wikimedia Foundation, Inc., 15 Nov 2012. Web. 29 May 2013. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detroit_Arsenal_Tank_Plant>.

The A7V

With the appearance of British tanks on the western front, Germany began a project that would lead to the A7V, Germany’s fist tank. Although the British tanks debuted poorly the psychological effects were considerable on the German forces who encountered them. The Supreme Army Command (Oberste Heeresleitung) confronted with this development successfully lobbied the War Department to create a German tank (Higgins 15). The War Deparment on November 13 1916 would contract the Verkehrstechnischen Prüfungskommission (Traffic Technical Examination Commission or VPK) to develop a 33 ton vehicle (Higgins 16). The VPK would in term delegate this to the Allgemeines Kriegsdepartement, 7. Abteilung, Verkehrswesen (“General War Department, 7th Branch, Transportation”); reserve Captain and engineer Joseph Vollmer was tasked with the creation of Germany’s first tank. The term A7V comes from the name of the group that fielded the vehicle; Allgemeines Kriegsdepartement, 7. Abteilung, Verkehrswesen. In German the vehicle was referred to as  Sturmpanzerwagen or Assualt Armoured Vehicle (“A7V”). The  Infantry Department (A2) of the War Ministry gave the following specifications for the tank design; it was to have a front and rear mounted quick-firing cannon, six machine guns, and an ability to carry a small assault infantry contingent . The initial requirements also called for 30mm of armour all around (Higgins 16).

The chassis used for the A7V would also be used for a transport vehicle, the Uberlandwagen. Although 20 A7Vs would be made, roughly 56 Uberlandwagens would be made (Kempf). A so called “female” variant of the A7V existed; it simply had it’s main gun replaced with two machine guns. Further experimentation was done using the Uberlandwagen and Krupp-converted K-Flak guns to create an Anti-Aircraft platform; one using 2x German 77 mm Sockelflak and two with captured Russian Sockelflak 02s. Some of these experimental vehicles would see service as lightly armoured vehicles such as “Heidi”; an AFV used post-war for internal security purposes (Higgins 21). A design labled A7V-U was worked on; with the goal of the vehicle having the all-terrain qualities of the British counterparts (“A7V”).

The first production model A7V was produced in October 1917 and assigned to Assault Tank Units 1 and 2, founded prior on September 20th  1917; each unit having five officers and 109 NCOs and soldiers.

An A7V tank at Roye in Northern France on March 21st,  1918.

An A7V tank at Roye in Northern France on March 21st, 1918.

The A7V had a crew of 18: a commander, driver, mechanic, mechanic/signaler, twelve infantrymen (six machine gunners, six loaders), and two artillerymen (main gunner and loader).The A7V was 7.34 meters (24.1 ft) long, 3 meters (9.8 ft) wide, with a height was 3.3 meters (11 ft). The tank had 20 mm of steel plate at the sides, 30 mm at the front and 10 mm for the roof. The A7V did not use hardened steel as other tanks of the period did so its armour was not as effective when larger calibers were used. The A7V was powered by two 100HP engines. The main armament was a 5.7cm Cockerill-Nordenfelt (Higgins 15 – 21) cannon mounting in the front; with six 7.92 mm MG08 machine guns as secondary armaments (“A7V”). The main cannon included some captured stock*.

The A7V could carry up to 10 cases of ammunition 250 rounds each for the machine guns; and the vehicle was designed to carry 180 rounds for its main gun however in practice this was often double that number (Higgins 20).

The surviving A7V tank, Mephisto, at Queensland Museum in Brisbane, Australia.

The surviving A7V tank, Mephisto, at Queensland Museum in Brisbane, Australia.

The A7V would see action on several instances with limited success during the First World War. The A7V would see combat in actions near the St. Quentin Canal, the Second Battle of Villers-Bretonneux, the Third Battle of the Aisne, and the Second Battle of the Marne.

*One source cites the main cannon as being a Maxim-Nordenfelt (“A7V”); with the cannons used including captured stock this both Maxim-Nordenfelt and Cockerill-Nordenfelt cannons may have been used, however these terms may in fact be interchangeable references to the same manufacturer (it is not clear from the available materials).

Works Cited:

1. “A7V.” Wikipedia The Free Encyclopedia. Wikimedia Foundation, Inc., 7 May 2013. Web. 18 May 2013. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A7V>.

2. Higgins, David R. Mark IV Vs A7V Villers-Bretonneux 1918. Osprey Publishing Ltd., 15 – 21. eBook.

3. Kempf, Peter. “A7V Überlandwagen.” Landships II. N.p.. Web. 19 May 2013. <http://www.landships.info/landships/softskin_articles/A7V_Uberlandwagen.html>.

The Neubaufahrzeug

The Neubaufahrzeug (“New Vehicle”) was a tank design based off of the Großtraktor (“Large Tractor”) tank design. The Großtraktor as a design began its life in secret in Russia at the secret testing facility Kama, which was jointly being used by the Russians and Germans; pursuant to the Treaty of Rapollo. The terms of the Treaty of Versailles at the end of World War I ruled out tanks as an option for Germany’s military, and thus the creation of Germany’s nascent post war tank force was done in secrecy. The Großtraktor project resulted in several prototypes which were briefly used for training purposes prior to being decommissioned. The Neubaufahrzeug project resulted in multiple prototypes, some of which would see action during the invasion of Norway. Prior to the use of the Neubaufahrzeug during the invasion of Norway, the vehicle was shown during the 1939  International Automobile Exposition in Berlin (“Neubaufahrzeug”). Physically the Neubaufahrzeug showed similarities to the Großtraktor design including the use of a 75mm cannon. The two designs created by Rheinmetall-Borsig and Krupp were labeled the PzKpfw NbFz V (PanzerKampfwagen NeubauFahrzeug V) and the PzKpfw NbFz VI respectively (“Neubaufahrzeug”).

Check out this video of a Neubaufahrzeug RC kit:

Works Cited:

1. “Neubaufahrzeug.” Wikipedia The Free Encyclopedia. Wikimedia Foundation, Inc., 30 Mar 2013. Web. 17 May 2013. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neubaufahrzeug>.

The Großtraktor

The three competing Großtraktor designs.

The three competing Großtraktor designs*.

With Germany’s defeat following World War I, Germany faced military constraints pursuant to the terms of the Treaty of Versailles. The terms of the Treaty of Versailles prohibited Germany from possessing tanks among other military restrictions. With things being monitored, development of Tanks occurred in secret. An example tank was received from the Swedish machinery manufacturer AB Landsverk; called the Gutehoffnungshütte** (“Großtraktor”). AB Landsverk would go on to be the main manufacturer of tanks for Sweden. In 1926 Rheinmetall-Borsig, Daimler-Benz and Krupp were commissioned to develop a 20 ton tank (“Großtraktor”). As the 1920s were coming to an end; Germans were performing experiments in secret in Russia. The Treaty of Rapallo, signed in 1922 in secret between Russia and Germany, provided the ability for experimentation near Kazan in Russia. The testing facility near Kazan was called Panzertruppenschule Kama (Armoured Troops School Kama) and was used from 1926 to 1933. The location was a joint testing ground and tank training ground for both the Russians and Germans. The term Kama comes from the two words Kazan and Malbrandt; Kazan being the nearby town and Oberstleutenant Malbrandt being the individual given the task of selecting the location used for testing. The vehicle was dubbed Großtraktor (“Large Tractor”) and was developed at the same time as another vehicle, the Leichttraktor (“Light Tractor”) (“Leichttraktor”). With the Nazi rise to power, the experimentation in Russia was halted and the prototypes brought back to Germany were they initially served a training role. The prototypes were decommissioned in 1937 due to inadequacies evident in their use as training tools; at least one ended up as a memorial to early armored regiments.

The Großtraktor was designed as a heavy breakthrough vehicle. The prototype vehicles had differences; however what follows was true of at least one or more of the models. The main armament was the same short 7.5 cm gun initially used on the Panzer IV; with secondary armaments including multiple machine guns. The approximate weight being 16 ton. The engine was a six-cylinder engine, in the 250-260 hp range. The following may have applied only to the Rheinmetall-Borsig and Krupp designs: a machine gun was placed at the rear of the tank, behind the turret; and the tank commander sat not in the turret, but in the hull to the right of the driver (Zaloga 13-14).

One result of the experimentation in Kazan was that the German Army Motorization Department felt compelled to field two tank types corresponding to the Großtraktor and the Leichttraktor; codenamed BW and ZW. The BW reference being for Battalionführerwagen, or the Battalion commander’s vehicle; which was intended to be a fire support vehicle. The BW was to accompany the ZW, the Zugführerwagen, or Section commander’s vehicle intended to act as the core battle tank (Zaloga 13-14).

The work on the Großtraktor led to the Neubaufahrzeug, a similar design.

*I’m interested to know which work this illustration is from.
**I haven’t seen any photos of this vehicle; if anyone is aware of any please let me know.

Works Cited:

1. “Großtraktor.” Wikipedia The Free Encyclopedia. Wikimedia Foundation, Inc., 1 Apr 2013. Web. 15 May 2013. <http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Großtraktor>.

2. “Tanks of the treaty of Versailles and the first World War.”World of Tanks Official European Forum. N.p., 13 Dec 2012. Web. 15 May 2013. <http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/183100-tanks-of-the-treaty-of-versailles-and-the-first-world-war/>.

3. “Leichttraktor.” Wikipedia The Free Encyclopedia. Wikimedia Foundation, Inc., 22 Mar 2013. Web. 16 May 2013. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leichttraktor>.

4. Zaloga, Steven J. . Panzer IV Vs Char B1 Bis: France 1940. Osprey Publishing, 2011. 13-14. eBook.

The Iosif Stalin Tank Family

With the current World of Tank special on the IS-3, IS-8, and IS-7 in full swing I have decided to write a post reviewing the IS series of tanks. The Iosif Stalin (IS) family of tanks was a series of heavy tanks developed beginning during the second world war.  Often written as IS, or “ИС”  in Cyrillic, the acronym means Iosif Stalin, or Joseph Stalin; the namesake of the Soviet leader at the time. With first deliveries beginning in October 1943 with the IS-1; this series would go on to see many models including the IS-2, IS-3, IS-4, and IS-10 or T-10 as it was renamed.

IS-3

IS-3

IS-4

IS-4

IS-6

IS-6

T-10/IS-10

T-10/IS-10

Models
Not including foreign operator variants, the IS family included 7 distinct variants including prototypes as well as 4 upgraded IS versions.
IS-85 (IS-1) – Initial 1943 model armed with an 85 mm gun.
IS-100 – A prototype variant armed with a 100 mm gun.
IS-122 (IS-2 model 1943) – 1943 model, armed with an A-19 122 mm gun.
IS-2 model 1944 (or “IS-2m”) -1944 design with D25-T 122 mm gun.
IS-2M – modernization of IS-2 tanks circa the 1950s.
IS-3 – 1944 armour design, internally similar to IS-2 model 1944, and produced concurrently. Roughly 350 built during the war, but did not participate in the war.
IS-3M – Modernization of the IS-3 circa 1952.
IS-4 – 1944 design which competed with the IS-3 design. Roughly 250 built after the war.
IS-6 – A prototype design using an experimental electrical transmission.
IS-7  – 1946 prototype design. The IS-7 model 1948 variant was armed with the 130 mm S-70 naval cannon.
IS-10 – 1952 design; renamed T-10 in the wake of Stalin’s death.

Operators
In addition to the USSR, the IS family would see service with the following nations: China, Cuba, Egypt, Nazi Germany, North Korea, Poland, Romania, and South Ossetia. In some cases these nations acquired their IS tanks as prizes of war.

Works Cited:

1. “Iosif Stalin tank.” Wikipedia The Free Encyclopedia. Wikimedia Foundation, Inc., 5 May 2013. Web. 5 May 2013. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iosif_Stalin_tank>.

2. Nikiforov, Alexei . “IS-7: the armored wonder?.” PKKA-CA. N.p.. Web. 6 May 2013. <http://pkka.narod.ru/is-7.htm>.

3. “Тяжелый танк ИС-6 » Общественное поисковое объединение «Война-1945».” Общественное поисковое объединение «Война-1945». Поисковое общественное объединение «Война-1945», 18 Apr 2011. Web. 6 May 2013. <http://war1945.ru/domestic-vehicles/518-tyazhelyy-tank-is-6.html>.

Off Topic: Artillery Photos And More

This is off topic but I thought I’d share a selection of photos of Artillery pieces I took while visiting the Texas Military Forces Museum not that long ago. There were several field pieces and at least one anti-aircraft, and one anti-tank piece; from several countries and time periods including examples from France, Russia, and the USA.

 

105 mm (10.5 cm) Cannon on the Sherman and Panzer IV

An M4A3E8 Sherman Tank

An M4A3E8 Sherman Tank armed with a 76mm cannon.

In the game World of Tanks the available Sherman tanks, the M4, the M4A3E2, and the M4A3E8 as well as the Panzer (PzKpfw) IV are shown as having a 105mm cannon available. In the case of the Sherman, Gun 105 mm SPH M4 L/23; and in the case of the Panzer IV, Gun 10,5 cm KwK 42 L/28. While I’m aware of upgrade programs for the Sherman, while thinking about the Panzer IV this got me wondering about when this would have occurred and where it may have been seen.

Regarding the Sherman I have found that during the Second World War, there was a variant using a 105mm cannon: the M4 Sherman 105mm Howitzer. This variant was used in both an Artillery, and a Tank Destroyer capacity. These tanks were fitted with a modified 105mm M2 howitzer (“1944-U.S.A. M4 Medium Tank (105)”); the M1/M2 being the guns in the M7 Priest Self-Propelled Gun.

While actual Sherman’s using the 105mm cannon were produced and saw action, the Panzer IV with a 105mm (10.5cm) was a different story. The German’s appear to have experimented with a 105mm artillery gun mounted in an experimental demountable turret on a Panzer IV chassis (“Panzer IV”); this experimental design was called the Heuschrecke (“Grasshopper”), a Self-Propelled Gun. A further  experimental design, a tank destroyer nicknamed Dicker Max (Fat Max); it was called the 10.5 cm K gepanzerte Selbstfahrlafette. While the prototype for the  Heuschrecke 10 doesn’t appear to have been sent into combat; the Dicker Max prototypes, both, were sent to the Eastern Front. What is not clear is if two were built and sent to the Eastern Front, or if one was built and sent along with a prototype for the Sturer Emil (Stubborn Emil) which was a comparable vehicle. Quoting the Wikipedia page for the Sturer Emil, the name for the prototypes of the two Sturer Emil units sent to the Eastern Front where “Max and Moritz” (“Sturer Emil”).

Works Cited:

1. “M4 Sherman.” Wikipedia The Free Encyclopedia. Wikimedia Foundation, Inc., 12 May 2013. Web. 12 May 2013. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M4_Sherman>.

2. “The History of the M4 Sherman 105mm Howitzer.” . Tamiya.com. Web. 12 May 2013. <http://www.tamiya.com/english/products/56014sherman/sherman_expl.htm>.

3. “1944-U.S.A. M4 Medium Tank (105).” Battle Tanks. N.p.. Web. 12 May 2013. <http://www.battletanks.com/m4_105mm.htm>.

4. “Panzer IV.” Wikipedia The Free Encyclopedia. Wikimedia Foundation, Inc., 7 May 2013. Web. 12 May 2013. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzer_IV>.

5. “10.5 cm K (gp.Sfl.).” Wikipedia The Free Encyclopedia. Wikimedia Foundation, Inc., 1 Mar 2013. Web. 12 May 2013. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10.5_cm_K_(gp.Sfl.)>.

6. “Heuschrecke 10.” Wikipedia The Free Encyclopedia. Wikimedia Foundation, Inc., 8 May 2013. Web. 12 May 2013. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heuschrecke_10>.

7.  “Sturer Emil.” Wikipedia The Free Encyclopedia. Wikimedia Foundation, Inc., 27 Feb 2013. Web. 12 May 2013. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturer_Emil>.

8. “Dicker Max and Sturer Emil in Combat.” Flames of War. N.p., 21 May 2010. Web. 12 May 2013. <http://www.flamesofwar.com/hobby.aspx?art_id=1936>.

Doing Stupid Things With Tanks

What follows is a list of things people in power have chosen to use tanks to do that they should not have; this list is by no means exhaustive so let me know if you know of some good examples. Many of the examples below relate to the use of Tanks, which are a weapon of war, in civilian contexts.

Budapest 1956

During 1956 the Soviet Union violently put down a populist revolution in Hungary; the heavy handed use of force stunned the world and was best epitomized by pictures of Soviet tanks in Budapest.

Michael Dukakis in a Tank

Michael Dukakis in a Tank

Taking a cue from the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, Margaret Thatcher, who successfully used a tank in a publicity photo; Michael Dukakis, the 1988 presidential nominee for the Democratic party posed with a tank in an effort to bolster his image. The efforts of Dukakis, who had served in the United States Army, backfired; with his rival successfully using the photo-op to ridicule him.

1989 Tiananmen Square Protests
1989 Tiananmen Square Protests

During the 1989 protest in Tiananmen Square, the Chinese military for some reason felt compelled to send in tanks to help clear the protesters; what followed was an iconic moment in 20th century politics as a single man frustrated the movement of a column of Chinese tanks sent in ironically to intimidate him and others.

During February and April of 1993, what has become known as the Branch Davidian Massacre occurred. During this event no less than  four ATF agents and 80 followers of David Koresh(Vernon Howell) would perish (“Branch Davidian Massacre Site”). There have been many criticisms of the events that unfolded; the use of heavy weapons was one.  The list of military equipment used at Waco included: nine Bradley fighting vehicles, five combat-engineer vehicles, one tank-retrieval vehicle and two M1A1 Abrams tanks (O’Meara).

On new years eve, 1994, Russian forces attempted to retake Chechnya with an assault on the city of Grozny; they did this with a force largely comprised of AFVs and little infantry support. The resulting debacle left 105 of 120 tanks knocked out and many Russian soldiers dead.

Works Cited:

1. Grau, Lester. “CHANGING RUSSIAN URBAN TACTICS: THE AFTERMATH OF THE BATTLE FOR GROZNY.” INSS Strategic Forum. Foreign Military Studies Office, n.d. Web. 6 May 2013. <http://fmso.leavenworth.army.mil/documents/grozny.htm>.

2. “This Day In History Nov 4, 1956: Soviets put brutal end to Hungarian revolution.” History. A&E Television Networks, LLC. Web. 6 May 2013. <http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/soviets-put-brutal-end-to-hungarian-revolution>.

3. “Michael Dukakis.” Wikipedia The Free Encyclopedia. Wikimedia Foundation, Inc., 8 May 2013. Web. 12 May 2013. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Dukakis>.

4. “Branch Davidian Massacre Site.” Roadsideamerica.com. N.p.. Web. 12 May 2013. <http://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/11910>.

5. O’Meara, Kelly . “CLARK TANKS USED IN WACO SIEGE.” WND. N.p., 16 Oct 2003. Web. 12 May 2013. <http://www.wnd.com/2003/10/21282/>.

Indien Panzer

Indien-Panzer

The caption on this German illustration reads: “Dr. Ing H.C. F. Porsche KG cooperated with Daimler-Benz AG in a tank project for the Indian government. The project was not realized.”*

 


With the release of update 8.5 for World of Tanks, one of the new tanks introduced is a tier VIII German medium tank, the Indien-Panzer. The World of Tanks wiki describes it as:

“The project was developed as a medium tank for the Indian Army. The work on the project was carried out by Porsche, Daimler-Benz, and Zahnradfabrik AG of Friedrichshafen. However, the vehicle was deemed to be too complicated for production in India, and the project was canceled.”

I decided I would write a post on this tank as information online is skimpy. If you know of a good book or other reference source please let me know. From what I have gleaned this was a project from the 1950s for the Indian government to meet the requirements at the time for their need for a tank. The project was a joint venture between Dr. Ing H.C. F. Porsche KG, which is owned by Porsche Zwischenholding GmbH, and Daimler-Benz AG; for the Indian government. It is curious to note at this juncture that this project was with a western nation where later 20th century projects ended up being with Russia on numerous military ventures.

Indien-Panzer

Ostensibly a schematic of the proposed tank design.*

India became an independent nation in 1947; therefor this tank project would have been to meet the young nations early military needs. After the birth of the modern nation of India, the fledgling nation was equipped with Sherman tanks, having been used prior by Indian units during the Second World War. These Sherman would continue to be used even into the 1960s when the core units were fielding Centurion and Patton tanks (H.L. ).

Had this tank been built, one must wonder how it would have impacted positively or negatively the conflicts India fought in during the 1960s; including the conflicts with Portugal, China, and Pakistan. This vehicle would have likely been equipped with an engine from Zahnradfabrik AG; a manufacturer of Tank engines (“ZF Friedrichshafen”).

Panzer 61 Panzer 58

It is my opinion, but the Indien Panzer design bears a strong resemblance to the Swiss Panzer 61 as well as its predecessor the Panzer 58; the Panzer 58 being from the same period as the Indien-Panzer. I cannot verify the nature of how these two vehicles were designed, although I have found from my own research that Switzerland did look to other nations to fill her need for AFVs during this period (“Panzer 61″).

*If anyone knows where the above illustrations come from, please let me know.

Works Cited:

1.”Indien-Panzer.” Indien-Panzer. World of Tanks, 1 May 2013. Web. 5 May 2013. <http://wiki.worldoftanks.com/Indien-Panzer>.

2. H.L. , Spoelstra. “India.” Sherman Encyclopedia. Sherman Register, 5 Nov 2001. Web. 5 May 2013. <http://web.inter.nl.net/users/spoelstra/g104/india.htm>.

3. “ZF Friedrichshafen.” Wikipedia The Free Encyclopedia. Wikimedia Foundation, Inc., 17 Apr 2013. Web. 5 May 2013. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZF_Friedrichshafen>.

4. “Panzer 61.” Wikipedia The Free Encyclopedia. Wikimedia Foundation, Inc., 4 May 2013. Web. 5 May 2013. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzer_61>.

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